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Sam Westing, Barney Northrup, Sandy McSouthers, Julian R. Eastman, & Me

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i am davidbrothers dotcom: funwrecker: In July, Greg Burgas at Comics Should Be Good wrote the...

infectedworldmind:

funwrecker:

In July, Greg Burgas at Comics Should Be Good wrote the following: “East of West presents an interesting challenge, because Hickman, as I noted, does a lot of design work and has illustrated some superb comics of his own in the past, so while Nick Dragotta’s work on the book…

Nice post. I love the discussion of Hickman and Dragotta’s approach to East of West. I agree with most of the pieces taking critics to task for their failure to write about art or give appropriate credit to artists re: the creative process or the finished product, but I think that it would be valuable to spend more time thinking about the origin of this problem, namely that many critics (especially of DC and Marvel comics) had their views on the artistic process shaped by the two publishers, who generally treat writers as the ‘authors’ of their comic books. It’s embedded in the prevalent model of comic book production

I don’t know how much I care about all this for various reasons, and some of that interview seemed silly to me, and I don’t know if any one else has been a jerk, and please forgive my need to be all jerky all the time forever, and maybe it’s just a function of me being in a huge cranky phase for the last little while but:  maybe it’s also because a shitload of the artists just draw the same so what’s the difference…?  Have you ever read an interview with a mainstream comic artist?  ”My influences are Jack Kirby, Jim Lee, Alex Toth, Joe Kubert and John Romita, Jr."  Ooooh.  Occasionally, you get Caniff.  Or somebody might like them some manga, maybe.  And that’s who draws those things.  Nobody’s really name-dropping Barry McGee, usually, you know?  Dave Mack might mention a Basquiat, but the fact I remember that at all maybe speaks to how unusual it is? “This issue of the Mighty Thor was influenced by my love of Damien Hirst.  That’s why Thor is killing all these cows.” Like, Kirby was influenced by the cubists, and if you go look at Boccioni’s Materia, I personally think you can see Kirby in there.  But David Finch…?  I did not see David Finch inside of a Boccioni painting, and if I did, it would probably resemble the plot of Ghostbusters 2 more than anything…

A lot of dudes are just photocopies of a photocopy of a photocopy of guys who weren’t allowed to draw comic strips because they were Jewish.   So: who cares if they went squiggly-doo instead of squiggly-dee when they were the five millionth person to draw Wolverine…?

Look, maybe it’s gotten a little better in the last 5-10 years, but … You know, if you’re inside the comics bubble, there’s huge differences between Mark Bagley and Jim Cheung, but if you step outside that bubble— it just all looks “like comics.”  Maybe Mark Bagley and Jim Cheung draw the exact same, and they just seem not to inside that bubble?   If so… what are people really missing out on hearing people write about, exactly?  I mean— it’s gotten a little better, but … Most of the reviews I think people are complaining about are people writing about industrial serial comics, or the “indie” comic favelas surrounding that world, right?  Maybe all that shit just looks the same and you’re too deep to even know.  At which point— why waste your time worrying that boring shit is inspiring boring writing?  Why wouldn’t it?  Once you get past style, it’s even harder to talk about storytelling so… If there’s even an audience for people who want to read shit that’s hardcore technical.  Like, I read a Michael Lark Lazarus comic the other day that shit all over the 180 degree rule in its action scenes.  But if the 180 degree rule even applies to comics (which I don’t know if people agree on)(I guess I’m more persuaded by the people who don’t think it does but the action scene really sucked and I think partly as a result of breaking that rule)(though partly cause… I don’t know if Michael Lark’s my road dog on action scenes to begin with)… do the people who really care about that comic care about the 180 degree rule?  I’m not sure if that’s true.  

Anyways, count yourself lucky.  Reading about anything is infuriating.  You want to be the guy puttering around their apartment grumbling that Matthias Wivel is all wrong about Christophe Blain’s art?  I’ve been that guy. No fun.

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  1. nocapenomask reblogged this from twiststreet and added:
    if this is being jerky, I don’t wanna be non-jerky.
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    and aren’t acknowledged by the discourse as part of the storytelling process. There are guys working who can barely...
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  5. twiststreet reblogged this from infectedworldmind and added:
    I don’t know how much I care about all this for various reasons, and some of that interview seemed silly to me, and I...
  6. infectedworldmind reblogged this from essentiallydazzling and added:
    Nice post. I love the discussion of Hickman and Dragotta’s approach to East of West. I agree with most of the pieces...
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    Click the link and read. A very interesting look at the creative process between a writer and artist on a creator-owned...
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    Educational.
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